Sorry, GTA and Red Dead aren’t in the same universe

Sorry, GTA and Red Dead aren’t in the same universe
Images: Rockstar Games

Written by 

Joseph Kime


31st Aug 2023 15:05

Are we going a bit multiverse-mad?

Maybe the MCU has pushed us to put a little too much faith in the concept of universes running parallel to our own and superheroes from galaxies apart coming together to take on one central foe, but it seems like everyone wants everything to be connected these days.

And even though superhero team-ups might scratch our organisational itches, it looks like Rockstar Games isn't getting involved.

Red Dead and GTA don't exist in the same universe

In a particularly impassioned post on the GTA subreddit, user CalculatorOctavius has shared their thoughts on exactly why they think that the universes of Red Dead and GTA are entirely separate, not just one timeline separated by many years.

"I have seen countless comments on this sub and others from people saying GTA and RDR share a universe as if it's a fact, and I just want to put it to bed for anyone reading this," they say, before launching into a tirade, disproving each fan theory that ties the worlds together.

It's pretty all-encompassing, so we'll leave you to the user's compelling arguments - and it's a tidy dissection of fans hoping to needlessly connect the two series. It's okay that they're different, guys, especially when there's no real likelihood of Arthur Morgan and Trevor Phillips meeting any time soon.

Fans react to claims that RDR and GTA are disconnected

Fans are impressed by the consideration that went into the post - but some don't care. They want to live in their fantasy world - and it's hard to blame them.

"I don't care let me dream my GTA online character is John's great-great grandson" says one passionate commenter.

"I feel like it would be kinda fun if they took place in the same universe, personally," says another. "Especially since they both use fictional versions of real locations. That said, RDR has a less satirical, more grounded vibe than GTA does so I do get why they don't want to create that sort of dissonance."

Regardless of the connection between the games, we can at least enjoy them for their differences. Of which there are all too many for us to draw the two together except with the fact that they're games made by the same company. Let's face it, John Marston in GTA is restricted purely to your character creation, but that's okay.

Joseph Kime
About the author
Joseph Kime
Joseph Kime is the Senior Trending News Journalist for GGRecon from Devon, UK. Before graduating from MarJon University with a degree in Journalism, he started writing music reviews for his own website before writing for the likes of FANDOM, Zavvi and The Digital Fix. He is host of the Big Screen Book Club podcast, and author of Building A Universe, a book that chronicles the history of superhero movies. His favourite games include DOOM (2016), Celeste and Pokemon Emerald.
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